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	<title>Comments on: Jimmy Wales on a dozen things that WILL be free</title>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#187; fact checking in wikipedia^W the NYT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#187; fact checking in wikipedia^W the NYT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jimbo Wales on &#8216;ten things that will be free&#8216;: &#8220;The ground rules are: I am talking about free in the sense of GNU, that is: free as in speech, not free as in beer. I was talking to someone about this concept recently who suggested “health care”. That’s not the sort of thing I’m talking about. Think: GNU/Linux. Think: Wikipedia. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: j's scratchpad</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 14:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ethan on Jimmy&#039;s Free Things&lt;/strong&gt;

I marked this post from Berkman Fellow Ethan Zuckerman about 10 sources of information and services Jimmy Wales thinks will be free many months ago and am just now revisiting it.</description>
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<p>I marked this post from Berkman Fellow Ethan Zuckerman about 10 sources of information and services Jimmy Wales thinks will be free many months ago and am just now revisiting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Spot-On: Chris Nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spot-On: Chris Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Times, They Are A-changing&lt;/strong&gt;

This week&#039;s eWeek column is about something that&#039;s been bugging me for a while now. Computers do not play together very well. And this is going to - sooner or later - have political consequences. Why? Part of the problem...</description>
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<p>This week&#8217;s eWeek column is about something that&#8217;s been bugging me for a while now. Computers do not play together very well. And this is going to &#8211; sooner or later &#8211; have political consequences. Why? Part of the problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WorldChanging: Another World Is Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>WorldChanging: Another World Is Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ten - or maybe a dozen - Things that Will Be Free&lt;/strong&gt;

Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, has been presenting audiences with a prediction and a challenge about the free culture movement: Ten Things that Will be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ten &#8211; or maybe a dozen &#8211; Things that Will Be Free</strong></p>
<p>Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, has been presenting audiences with a prediction and a challenge about the free culture movement: Ten Things that Will be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Solving the problems of 10 Things That Will Be Free&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Solving the problems of 10 Things That Will Be Free&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tomas Krag thinks he mayt have the solution to the problem with writing books in a wiki fashion, as discussed in an earlier post. He reports from the other side of London, where he&#8217;s engaged in a &#8220;book sprint&#8221;, trying to write a guide to wireless networking in the developing world over the course of a few days.  This blog-entry is extremely well timed, as I’m currently in London at a hacker conference writing an open book about wireless networks in the developing world. I’m not actually writing the book, I just gathered the right people in one room, and in the amazing space of 4 days we’ve gone from vague idea to pretty well fleshed-out outline with a few chapters already written for good measure. We’re calling the model a BookSprint, even though it’ll take us at least a month after the event to complete the writing and edit the book, but the intriguing thing about this is that we may have solved exactly the problem that you elude too, by gathering consesus about an outline and a vision. Instead of a large 300-page blob of text we’ve essentially converted this project into a about 20 independent articles, and some concerted editing to make it all read like a book…. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tomas Krag thinks he mayt have the solution to the problem with writing books in a wiki fashion, as discussed in an earlier post. He reports from the other side of London, where he&#8217;s engaged in a &#8220;book sprint&#8221;, trying to write a guide to wireless networking in the developing world over the course of a few days.  This blog-entry is extremely well timed, as I’m currently in London at a hacker conference writing an open book about wireless networks in the developing world. I’m not actually writing the book, I just gathered the right people in one room, and in the amazing space of 4 days we’ve gone from vague idea to pretty well fleshed-out outline with a few chapters already written for good measure. We’re calling the model a BookSprint, even though it’ll take us at least a month after the event to complete the writing and edit the book, but the intriguing thing about this is that we may have solved exactly the problem that you elude too, by gathering consesus about an outline and a vision. Instead of a large 300-page blob of text we’ve essentially converted this project into a about 20 independent articles, and some concerted editing to make it all read like a book…. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
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		<description>This blog-entry is extremely well timed, as I&#039;m currently in London at a hacker conference writing an open book about wireless networks in the developing world. I&#039;m not actually writing the book, I just gathered the right people in one room, and in the amazing space of 4 days we&#039;ve gone from vague idea to pretty well fleshed-out outline with a few chapters already written for good measure. We&#039;re calling the model a BookSprint, even though it&#039;ll take us at least a month after the event to complete the writing and edit the book, but the intriguing thing about this is that we may have solved exactly the problem that you elude too, by gathering consesus about an outline and a vision. Instead of a large 300-page blob of text we&#039;ve essentially converted this project into a about 20 independent articles, and some concerted editing to make it all read like a book....

wish us luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog-entry is extremely well timed, as I&#8217;m currently in London at a hacker conference writing an open book about wireless networks in the developing world. I&#8217;m not actually writing the book, I just gathered the right people in one room, and in the amazing space of 4 days we&#8217;ve gone from vague idea to pretty well fleshed-out outline with a few chapters already written for good measure. We&#8217;re calling the model a BookSprint, even though it&#8217;ll take us at least a month after the event to complete the writing and edit the book, but the intriguing thing about this is that we may have solved exactly the problem that you elude too, by gathering consesus about an outline and a vision. Instead of a large 300-page blob of text we&#8217;ve essentially converted this project into a about 20 independent articles, and some concerted editing to make it all read like a book&#8230;.</p>
<p>wish us luck</p>
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		<title>By: Cloudy Thinking by Ron K. Jeffries &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wales: 10 Things that Will be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloudy Thinking by Ron K. Jeffries &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wales: 10 Things that Will be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jimmy Wales &#8220;Mr. Wikipedia&#8221; has a project called “10 Things that Will be Free”. Go read this cogent discussion By Ethan Zuckerman about Jimmy Wales&#8217; &#8220;10 Things&#8221; (as of September 28, 2005). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jimmy Wales &#8220;Mr. Wikipedia&#8221; has a project called “10 Things that Will be Free”. Go read this cogent discussion By Ethan Zuckerman about Jimmy Wales&#8217; &#8220;10 Things&#8221; (as of September 28, 2005). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Brewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got interviewed for a 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.com.com/2102-1025_3-5884291.html?tag=st.util.print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;c/net article about wikibooks&lt;/a&gt; the other day and had an epiphany about the challenges facing wikibooks, at least in Biology.  Figures.  Biology textbooks need great figures.  I&#039;m thinking about how to put together a project to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got interviewed for a<br />
<a href="http://news.com.com/2102-1025_3-5884291.html?tag=st.util.print" rel="nofollow">c/net article about wikibooks</a> the other day and had an epiphany about the challenges facing wikibooks, at least in Biology.  Figures.  Biology textbooks need great figures.  I&#8217;m thinking about how to put together a project to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Licence to Roam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Licence to Roam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Freedom&lt;/strong&gt;

Ethan Zuckerman documents a Jimmy Wale talk, looking at 10 things that will become free over the next 10-25 years, as in free of licensing, freely available, free to use, mix and repurpose. But these things won&#039;be become free of...</description>
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<p>Ethan Zuckerman documents a Jimmy Wale talk, looking at 10 things that will become free over the next 10-25 years, as in free of licensing, freely available, free to use, mix and repurpose. But these things won&#8217;be become free of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Skoczen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Skoczen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to your half-baked assertions, I offer a couple not-even-fully-mixed thoughts.

&lt;b&gt;A dozen things&lt;/b&gt;
I like this list.  It&#039;s definitely skewed a bit toward the wiki-world, and could be expanded, especially in software terms toward needed free projects.   Open, transparent software for government use, for example.  

For example, let&#039;s assume the congressional budget office uses a particular software package to manage most of the nation&#039;s budget.  Now let&#039;s assume that an open source project creates a package that matches this functionality, for free.  Now, let&#039;s take it one step further, and build in public, web-based access to any of the CBO&#039;s data.  Given that the software worked, and was free, the government would have a hard time not adopting it (cost-effectiveness regulations and all), and transparency would come along &lt;i&gt;for the ride&lt;/i&gt;. 

Now given, that&#039;s pretty pipe-dreamy.  But there&#039;s more to free than education and reference information.  There&#039;s also the knowledge that&#039;s hidden in institutions.  In a free-focused world, we need to figure out ways to get that information out.


&lt;b&gt;Wikibooks / WikiDictionary&lt;/b&gt;
One other possible reason for the rapid growth of Wikipedia vs. WikiBooks is simply its how widely useful the information is.  More widely useful = more users = more content.

There&#039;s also the relation between user and creator. After I&#039;ve looked up a few entries on Wikipedia, I&#039;ve found it useful - and I feel some sort of obligation to contribute to that knowledge.  Since I&#039;m a reasonably intelligent person with some bits of specialized knowledge, it&#039;s likely I can contribute somewhere.   With Wikibooks, the end users (students) aren&#039;t the people who generally create the content, so that sense of shared use/creation never happens.

Now, this explanation doesn&#039;t fly for WikiDictionary, but in that case, the &lt;i&gt;type&lt;/i&gt; of knowledge is the limiting factor.  I can really only contribute to WikiDictionary if I&#039;m really confident in the meaning of a particular word, which effectively limits me to being a linguist or an instructor of a given language.  Most people don&#039;t have that sort of precise definition for the words they use. (I can&#039;t count the number of times I&#039;ve failed the &quot;define x without using the word x&quot; test)  On Wikipedia, I just have to know about a particular topic. This makes it easier.

I think the best shot for Wikibooks is for some educational institution to give its full backing. Full backing means first providing a good seed of content to Wikibooks.  But second and more importantly, the institution has to commit to using the Wikibooks-based textbooks for instructing its own classes.  Without actual use, they&#039;ll be textbooks that joeRandom school board/university is wary to take on.  With the backing (and &lt;b&gt;use&lt;/b&gt;) of a major institution, the &#039;selling&#039; process gets much easier.


&lt;b&gt;Google Maps&lt;/b&gt;
This is quite an interesting example.  Effectively, Google has created a standard by being the first to the market with a good API. (ala some of Microsoft IE&#039;s proprietary HTML extensions).  But what makes this situation unique is Google&#039;s &quot;Don&#039;t be Evil&quot; motto. 

Now whether or not Google is actually evil isn&#039;t the issue.  The issue is that once thousands of developers have created large apps with the Google Maps API, that API becomes a de-facto standard for GIS information online, and Google will have a hard time changing the licensing to something more &quot;evil&quot;.  It&#039;s obviously not a technical issue (this is &lt;i&gt;Google&lt;/i&gt;, after all), but a social one.  If the Maps API is entrenched, Google is smart enough to know that they&#039;d have a PR backlash by trying to switch to a non-free license, or less-functional API.  They&#039;re also smart enough to know that rivals would be waiting with competing products in the case of such a slip up.

What you end up with is a commercial product, extended by the community beyond its original design, that is semi-transparent and free to use.  Best of all, the product is sustained by social stigma and a bit of competition.   While this surely isn&#039;t open source, it&#039;s not business as usual. 

In a way, it&#039;s almost open-source coercion.  It will be interesting to see if future APIs emulate this fate, or try to avoid it.</description>
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<p><b>A dozen things</b><br />
I like this list.  It&#8217;s definitely skewed a bit toward the wiki-world, and could be expanded, especially in software terms toward needed free projects.   Open, transparent software for government use, for example.  </p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s assume the congressional budget office uses a particular software package to manage most of the nation&#8217;s budget.  Now let&#8217;s assume that an open source project creates a package that matches this functionality, for free.  Now, let&#8217;s take it one step further, and build in public, web-based access to any of the CBO&#8217;s data.  Given that the software worked, and was free, the government would have a hard time not adopting it (cost-effectiveness regulations and all), and transparency would come along <i>for the ride</i>. </p>
<p>Now given, that&#8217;s pretty pipe-dreamy.  But there&#8217;s more to free than education and reference information.  There&#8217;s also the knowledge that&#8217;s hidden in institutions.  In a free-focused world, we need to figure out ways to get that information out.</p>
<p><b>Wikibooks / WikiDictionary</b><br />
One other possible reason for the rapid growth of Wikipedia vs. WikiBooks is simply its how widely useful the information is.  More widely useful = more users = more content.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the relation between user and creator. After I&#8217;ve looked up a few entries on Wikipedia, I&#8217;ve found it useful &#8211; and I feel some sort of obligation to contribute to that knowledge.  Since I&#8217;m a reasonably intelligent person with some bits of specialized knowledge, it&#8217;s likely I can contribute somewhere.   With Wikibooks, the end users (students) aren&#8217;t the people who generally create the content, so that sense of shared use/creation never happens.</p>
<p>Now, this explanation doesn&#8217;t fly for WikiDictionary, but in that case, the <i>type</i> of knowledge is the limiting factor.  I can really only contribute to WikiDictionary if I&#8217;m really confident in the meaning of a particular word, which effectively limits me to being a linguist or an instructor of a given language.  Most people don&#8217;t have that sort of precise definition for the words they use. (I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve failed the &#8220;define x without using the word x&#8221; test)  On Wikipedia, I just have to know about a particular topic. This makes it easier.</p>
<p>I think the best shot for Wikibooks is for some educational institution to give its full backing. Full backing means first providing a good seed of content to Wikibooks.  But second and more importantly, the institution has to commit to using the Wikibooks-based textbooks for instructing its own classes.  Without actual use, they&#8217;ll be textbooks that joeRandom school board/university is wary to take on.  With the backing (and <b>use</b>) of a major institution, the &#8216;selling&#8217; process gets much easier.</p>
<p><b>Google Maps</b><br />
This is quite an interesting example.  Effectively, Google has created a standard by being the first to the market with a good API. (ala some of Microsoft IE&#8217;s proprietary HTML extensions).  But what makes this situation unique is Google&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t be Evil&#8221; motto. </p>
<p>Now whether or not Google is actually evil isn&#8217;t the issue.  The issue is that once thousands of developers have created large apps with the Google Maps API, that API becomes a de-facto standard for GIS information online, and Google will have a hard time changing the licensing to something more &#8220;evil&#8221;.  It&#8217;s obviously not a technical issue (this is <i>Google</i>, after all), but a social one.  If the Maps API is entrenched, Google is smart enough to know that they&#8217;d have a PR backlash by trying to switch to a non-free license, or less-functional API.  They&#8217;re also smart enough to know that rivals would be waiting with competing products in the case of such a slip up.</p>
<p>What you end up with is a commercial product, extended by the community beyond its original design, that is semi-transparent and free to use.  Best of all, the product is sustained by social stigma and a bit of competition.   While this surely isn&#8217;t open source, it&#8217;s not business as usual. </p>
<p>In a way, it&#8217;s almost open-source coercion.  It will be interesting to see if future APIs emulate this fate, or try to avoid it.</p>
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