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		<title>By: Ejovi Nuwere &#187; Thoughts on Microsoft FlexGo</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2006/06/19/flexgo-the-repo-man-on-a-microchip/comment-page-1/#comment-19904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ejovi Nuwere &#187; Thoughts on Microsoft FlexGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I looked into the FlexGo system in response to Ethan&#8217;s post and question about my opinion. I have two thoughts. First I don&#8217;t think “rent-to-buy” financing models are bad. Rich or poor we pay for objects based on their perceived value to us, not their actual value. When I decide to buy a $1400 laptop from Apple, what it actually cost to make is irrelevant to me as long as I feel as though I&#8217;m getting a good deal. If I decide to pay $15 a month for 2 years for a piece of furniture that actually cost $100, it’s because I feel that financing it is a better deal for me at that given time. I don&#8217;t consider furniture rentals predatory if the rental fees are within financially acceptable means for the borrower. While paying $360 for a $100 table is stupid, it’s not necessarily predatory if the person has the means to pay it. In my opinion the same applies to rent-to-buy computers. If you sell a consumer a $200 computer for $500 and the user has the means to pay the $500 overtime and feels like it’s a worthwhile investment, let it be. If the consumer thinks they are getting screwed someone else will develop a better business model. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I looked into the FlexGo system in response to Ethan&#8217;s post and question about my opinion. I have two thoughts. First I don&#8217;t think “rent-to-buy” financing models are bad. Rich or poor we pay for objects based on their perceived value to us, not their actual value. When I decide to buy a $1400 laptop from Apple, what it actually cost to make is irrelevant to me as long as I feel as though I&#8217;m getting a good deal. If I decide to pay $15 a month for 2 years for a piece of furniture that actually cost $100, it’s because I feel that financing it is a better deal for me at that given time. I don&#8217;t consider furniture rentals predatory if the rental fees are within financially acceptable means for the borrower. While paying $360 for a $100 table is stupid, it’s not necessarily predatory if the person has the means to pay it. In my opinion the same applies to rent-to-buy computers. If you sell a consumer a $200 computer for $500 and the user has the means to pay the $500 overtime and feels like it’s a worthwhile investment, let it be. If the consumer thinks they are getting screwed someone else will develop a better business model. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ejovi Nuwere &#187; Microsoft Flexgo</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2006/06/19/flexgo-the-repo-man-on-a-microchip/comment-page-1/#comment-19840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ejovi Nuwere &#187; Microsoft Flexgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Continue readings Ethan&#8217;s thoughts on Flexgo [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ntwiga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ntwiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question that are not being asked that I think should be if I may Ethan:

In the countries where the &quot;very poor&quot; are, one can buy a refurbished (read off-lease or end of life corporate hardware that has undergone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;q=define:%22planned+obsolescence%22&amp;spell=1&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;planned obsolescence&quot; (yet another mechanism created by the industry to keep product moving but I digress)&lt;/a&gt;) for about $100 to $200 all told. This will typically be a PIII machine with maybe 10GB of disk space, 128MB of RAM and no modem, networking or other &quot;complicated abilities&quot;. Sellers of these machines will typically install a bunch of open source apps ontop of Windows to make them usable. (most these machines come with COA licences for Win 98 or Win 2000 allowing the resellers to install a valid copy of Windows on the machine). There will also be a ton of games to entertain the kids, and maybe a DVD player with some cheap speakers if you are very lucky. 

Why, as a buyer, would I pick the Flex Go machine over this considering that maybe 3-4 months of FlexGo payments would have bought this outright?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catia.ws/Documents/Indexpage/CommentrefurbishedPCs.pdf&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This write up has some more info on this.&lt;/a&gt;

The 2nd component of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catia.ws/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CATIA conference&lt;/a&gt; held in 2004 specifially dealt with avenues of dealing with this issue. Basically an attempt to create homegrown solutions to the African problem.

I have been sitting on a blog post on this for while, this might be a good time to get it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question that are not being asked that I think should be if I may Ethan:</p>
<p>In the countries where the &#8220;very poor&#8221; are, one can buy a refurbished (read off-lease or end of life corporate hardware that has undergone <a href="http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;q=define:%22planned+obsolescence%22&amp;spell=1" title="" rel="nofollow">&#8220;planned obsolescence&#8221; (yet another mechanism created by the industry to keep product moving but I digress)</a>) for about $100 to $200 all told. This will typically be a PIII machine with maybe 10GB of disk space, 128MB of RAM and no modem, networking or other &#8220;complicated abilities&#8221;. Sellers of these machines will typically install a bunch of open source apps ontop of Windows to make them usable. (most these machines come with COA licences for Win 98 or Win 2000 allowing the resellers to install a valid copy of Windows on the machine). There will also be a ton of games to entertain the kids, and maybe a DVD player with some cheap speakers if you are very lucky. </p>
<p>Why, as a buyer, would I pick the Flex Go machine over this considering that maybe 3-4 months of FlexGo payments would have bought this outright?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catia.ws/Documents/Indexpage/CommentrefurbishedPCs.pdf" title="" rel="nofollow">This write up has some more info on this.</a></p>
<p>The 2nd component of the <a href="http://www.catia.ws/" title="" rel="nofollow">CATIA conference</a> held in 2004 specifially dealt with avenues of dealing with this issue. Basically an attempt to create homegrown solutions to the African problem.</p>
<p>I have been sitting on a blog post on this for while, this might be a good time to get it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Marti</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2006/06/19/flexgo-the-repo-man-on-a-microchip/comment-page-1/#comment-19474</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not getting how this story is substantially different from the Netpliance i-Opener story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener

Even if the license enforcement chip is effective, the owner of a &quot;remotely repo-ed&quot; PC should be able to sell some or all of the hardware: monitor, case, hard drive, processor, or RAM, to someone building conventional machines.  So the store will still have to have conventional repo as a backup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not getting how this story is substantially different from the Netpliance i-Opener story.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener</a></p>
<p>Even if the license enforcement chip is effective, the owner of a &#8220;remotely repo-ed&#8221; PC should be able to sell some or all of the hardware: monitor, case, hard drive, processor, or RAM, to someone building conventional machines.  So the store will still have to have conventional repo as a backup.</p>
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