Comments on: Digital activists find ways to help Kenya http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/ EthanZ's musings on Africa, media and international development Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:45:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AfricaMars http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-1967071 AfricaMars Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:43:30 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-1967071 It's really impressive how popular Ushahidi has now become, to find taht it was built in just a week or so. It’s really impressive how popular Ushahidi has now become, to find taht it was built in just a week or so.

]]> By: Ushahidi/FrontlineSMS Talk at UoN | Afrinnovator.com http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-1866938 Ushahidi/FrontlineSMS Talk at UoN | Afrinnovator.com Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:51:53 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-1866938 [...] helped a lot with creating awareness about the initial version (prototype) – here’s a blog post he wrote on Ushahidi at the [...] [...] helped a lot with creating awareness about the initial version (prototype) – here’s a blog post he wrote on Ushahidi at the [...]

]]> By: Meet the attendees (3): David Kobia, Jon Gosier & Amon Munyaneza « BarCamp Africa http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-1228729 Meet the attendees (3): David Kobia, Jon Gosier & Amon Munyaneza « BarCamp Africa Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:59:49 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-1228729 [...] including the Knight-Batten for innovation in journalism. You can read more about Ushahidi in this blog post by Ethan [...] [...] including the Knight-Batten for innovation in journalism. You can read more about Ushahidi in this blog post by Ethan [...]

]]> By: » DigiActive.org » Tactic: SMS/Map Mashup Protects Human Rights in Kenya http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-905062 » DigiActive.org » Tactic: SMS/Map Mashup Protects Human Rights in Kenya Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:52:13 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-905062 [...] on a map of Kenya using a colored pin and the text of the message is displayed on the home page. According to Ethan Zuckerman, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from [...] [...] on a map of Kenya using a colored pin and the text of the message is displayed on the home page. According to Ethan Zuckerman, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from [...]

]]> By: » Blog Archive » Tactic: SMS/Map Mashup Protects Human Rights in Kenya http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-866773 » Blog Archive » Tactic: SMS/Map Mashup Protects Human Rights in Kenya Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:20:27 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-866773 [...] on a map of Kenya using a colored pin and the text of the message is displayed on the home page. According to Ethan Zuckerman, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from [...] [...] on a map of Kenya using a colored pin and the text of the message is displayed on the home page. According to Ethan Zuckerman, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from [...]

]]> By: Ethan http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-834650 Ethan Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:24:55 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-834650 Bongostyle, I think you're making a mistake in blaming some of the speech taking place on Mashada on David. The man made a tool - people are now choosing to use it for good for for ill. The solution isn't to close the tool - it's to use it better, closing off the threads when they get too extreme. I think you're fair to ask David to moderate his board more closely, but I think you're making a mistake in implicitly calling him someone who's promoting extremism. That's not who he is and not what he's doing. Bongostyle, I think you’re making a mistake in blaming some of the speech taking place on Mashada on David. The man made a tool – people are now choosing to use it for good for for ill. The solution isn’t to close the tool – it’s to use it better, closing off the threads when they get too extreme. I think you’re fair to ask David to moderate his board more closely, but I think you’re making a mistake in implicitly calling him someone who’s promoting extremism. That’s not who he is and not what he’s doing.

]]> By: bongostyle http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-822997 bongostyle Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:37:23 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-822997 Ethan, For your information, David Kobia (the one who help to develop Ushahidi) is the creator of Mashada.com and its forum is promoting violence, tribal clashes and hate speeches… Mashada is one of the place where people will kill you with words. This forum has no moderator and David is doing nothing to moderate the place. Just as an example, see http://www.mashada.com/forums/kenya-2008/66697-jaluos-kalenjins-now-stranded-nairobi-let-games-begin.html “You useless dirty minded kikuyu demon, don’t you realise you are toying with very dangerous issues here? You are mad and deserve HELL. You will rot in hell and save the country such maddness,. You are rotten and filthy minded….you are so frustrated and hopeless. Go hang your stupid self somewhere very far from Kenya you demon from the heart of hell!!!! Kuma mayo! Bloody Kikuyu idiot” And this !! Not sure Mr Obama will like this… http://www.mashada.com/forums/kenya-2008/66697-jaluos-kalenjins-now-stranded-nairobi-let-games-begin.html “We have barricaded their only route to their rural homes. In Nairobi we have engaged the Mungiki, they will either pay us in order for us not to kill them, or we will kill them…. This is what awaits every misguided jaluo and kalenjin: [picture of men in blood]” How can a man develop a useful website such as Ushahidi and in the same time promote violence and clashes in Mashada. By the way, David, are you safe in Alabama ? Please moderate your websites as the US law stipulate it or close Mashada.com !! Ethan,

For your information, David Kobia (the one who help to develop Ushahidi) is the creator of Mashada.com and its forum is promoting violence, tribal clashes and hate speeches… Mashada is one of the place where people will kill you with words. This forum has no moderator and David is doing nothing to moderate the place.

Just as an example, see

http://www.mashada.com/forums/kenya-2008/66697-jaluos-kalenjins-now-stranded-nairobi-let-games-begin.html
“You useless dirty minded kikuyu demon, don’t you realise you are toying with very dangerous issues here? You are mad and deserve HELL. You will rot in hell and save the country such maddness,. You are rotten and filthy minded….you are so frustrated and hopeless. Go hang your stupid self somewhere very far from Kenya you demon from the heart of hell!!!!

Kuma mayo! Bloody Kikuyu idiot”

And this !! Not sure Mr Obama will like this…

http://www.mashada.com/forums/kenya-2008/66697-jaluos-kalenjins-now-stranded-nairobi-let-games-begin.html

“We have barricaded their only route to their rural homes. In Nairobi we have engaged the Mungiki, they will either pay us in order for us not to kill them, or we will kill them….

This is what awaits every misguided jaluo and kalenjin:

[picture of men in blood]”

How can a man develop a useful website such as Ushahidi and in the same time promote violence and clashes in Mashada.

By the way, David, are you safe in Alabama ?
Please moderate your websites as the US law stipulate it or close Mashada.com !!

]]> By: Andrius Kulikauskas http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-792744 Andrius Kulikauskas Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:29:44 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-792744 Ethan, Thank you for noting our efforts. We've focused our efforts with Pyramid of Peace http://www.pyramidofpeace.net recently on helping Kenyans engage those in other tribes. Kenyans are organizing a Peace Caravan. I'm wondering where to focus next our resources. Thank you to Clark Boyd, Technology Correspondent of The World, for his report on the use of phone credits as currency http://www.theworld.org/wma.php?id=0116083 and to all who responded! Andrius Ethan, Thank you for noting our efforts. We’ve focused our efforts with Pyramid of Peace http://www.pyramidofpeace.net recently on helping Kenyans engage those in other tribes. Kenyans are organizing a Peace Caravan. I’m wondering where to focus next our resources. Thank you to Clark Boyd, Technology Correspondent of The World, for his report on the use of phone credits as currency http://www.theworld.org/wma.php?id=0116083 and to all who responded! Andrius

]]> By: MediaChannel.org http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-779917 MediaChannel.org Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:25:58 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-779917 [...] Ethan Zuckerman: One major concern in the aftermath of Kenya’s disputed elections has been the possibility that the media is undercounting the dead and injured in incidents of election violence. In a blog post last week, Ory Okolloh suggested a project to document incidents of violence and place them on a web-based map. The idea was quickly picked up by Kenyans in the country and in the diaspora, and over the weekend, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from White African blogger Erik “Hash” Hersman and input from a wide range of Kenyan bloggers and activists. [...] [...] Ethan Zuckerman: One major concern in the aftermath of Kenya’s disputed elections has been the possibility that the media is undercounting the dead and injured in incidents of election violence. In a blog post last week, Ory Okolloh suggested a project to document incidents of violence and place them on a web-based map. The idea was quickly picked up by Kenyans in the country and in the diaspora, and over the weekend, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from White African blogger Erik “Hash” Hersman and input from a wide range of Kenyan bloggers and activists. [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Kenya: Cyberactivism in the aftermath of political violence http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/comment-page-1/#comment-779132 Global Voices Online » Kenya: Cyberactivism in the aftermath of political violence Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:17:36 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/01/09/digital-activists-find-ways-to-help-kenya/#comment-779132 [...] Ethan Zuckerman: One major concern in the aftermath of Kenya’s disputed elections has been the possibility that the media is undercounting the dead and injured in incidents of election violence. In a blog post last week, Ory Okolloh suggested a project to document incidents of violence and place them on a web-based map. The idea was quickly picked up by Kenyans in the country and in the diaspora, and over the weekend, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from White African blogger Erik “Hash” Hersman and input from a wide range of Kenyan bloggers and activists. [...] [...] Ethan Zuckerman: One major concern in the aftermath of Kenya’s disputed elections has been the possibility that the media is undercounting the dead and injured in incidents of election violence. In a blog post last week, Ory Okolloh suggested a project to document incidents of violence and place them on a web-based map. The idea was quickly picked up by Kenyans in the country and in the diaspora, and over the weekend, Kenyan developer David Kobia put together the Ushahidi website, based on a design sketch from White African blogger Erik “Hash” Hersman and input from a wide range of Kenyan bloggers and activists. [...]

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