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		<title>By: maps to look at online</title>
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		<dc:creator>maps to look at online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Chinese blogosphere and issues of bias, misunderstanding and miscommunication. It??s become vehttp://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/06/28/china-bias-misunderstanding/Yahoo! Local &amp;amp Maps Blog &amp;187 Blog Archive &amp;187 Yahoo! Maps Global ...By the way, the maps look [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jotman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jotman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anti-cnn . . .  Writers on the site did excellent fact-checking . . . &quot;

Really?!

http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/04/fact-checking-chinas-netizens-expose-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anti-cnn . . .  Writers on the site did excellent fact-checking . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>Really?!</p>
<p><a href="http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/04/fact-checking-chinas-netizens-expose-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/04/fact-checking-chinas-netizens-expose-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Media and causes</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/06/28/china-bias-misunderstanding/comment-page-1/#comment-1080259</link>
		<dc:creator>Media and causes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zuckerman has a couple of recent posts about Darfur and Tibet, I found both very good to read. &quot;China, bias, and misunderstanding&quot; is about the disconnect between Chinese and Western perceptions of Tibet -- for example, how and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zuckerman has a couple of recent posts about Darfur and Tibet, I found both very good to read. &#8220;China, bias, and misunderstanding&#8221; is about the disconnect between Chinese and Western perceptions of Tibet &#8212; for example, how and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Han Chinese tend to offer reflections like, “These ungrateful minorities - look what we did for their economy! We built infrastructure and sanitation for them and this is what we get?”  &lt;&lt;

I have heard and seen this sentiment from several sources in recent months, including a friend who&#039;s living in China currently.  I find it deeply disturbing, in a way that makes me ... the mental equivalent of queasy.  Because it echoes a strain strain of Israeli right-wing thinking I remember from the 80s, that was pretty common in the 70s too from what I&#039;ve read: Israel brought infrastructure and functional government and personal rights and freedom of the press to the West Bank and Gaza, etc. etc.

It&#039;s not false, exactly.  It is a sort of bubble mentality that dehumanizes people in an unseeing, patronizing way.  It is a banal evil, in my opinion, but the people who indulge in it are often very good people who would be surprised by what they&#039;re indulging in if only they could see it.

I don&#039;t know how deeply the similarities run, but this is what it reminds me of, and why I react so violently (internally) to Chinese views on Tibet.  Partly, perhaps, out of a mild association guilt: my country, or a particular cultural strain within it, did the same thing, and it has contributed to the country&#039;s deterioration.  Yet because it is in a sense true, I found it partly convincing for a time, and I remember that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Han Chinese tend to offer reflections like, “These ungrateful minorities &#8211; look what we did for their economy! We built infrastructure and sanitation for them and this is what we get?”  &lt;&lt;</p>
<p>I have heard and seen this sentiment from several sources in recent months, including a friend who&#8217;s living in China currently.  I find it deeply disturbing, in a way that makes me &#8230; the mental equivalent of queasy.  Because it echoes a strain strain of Israeli right-wing thinking I remember from the 80s, that was pretty common in the 70s too from what I&#8217;ve read: Israel brought infrastructure and functional government and personal rights and freedom of the press to the West Bank and Gaza, etc. etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not false, exactly.  It is a sort of bubble mentality that dehumanizes people in an unseeing, patronizing way.  It is a banal evil, in my opinion, but the people who indulge in it are often very good people who would be surprised by what they&#8217;re indulging in if only they could see it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how deeply the similarities run, but this is what it reminds me of, and why I react so violently (internally) to Chinese views on Tibet.  Partly, perhaps, out of a mild association guilt: my country, or a particular cultural strain within it, did the same thing, and it has contributed to the country&#8217;s deterioration.  Yet because it is in a sense true, I found it partly convincing for a time, and I remember that.</p>
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		<title>By: China &#171; Michael Sieburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>China &#171; Michael Sieburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] China June 30, 2008, 12:52 am  Filed under: East Asia  Ethan Zuckerman writes an interesting post from the Global Voices summit in Budapest: China, bias, and misunderstanding. [...]</description>
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