Comments on: China’s complicated internet culture http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/ EthanZ's musings on Africa, media and international development Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:45:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A Curated History of the Grass Mud Horse Song | 八八吧 :: 88 Bar http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-2660920 A Curated History of the Grass Mud Horse Song | 八八吧 :: 88 Bar Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:41:19 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-2660920 [...] the LOLCat, the Grass Mud Horse has amazing staying power.  Its song was profiled by Rebecca MacKinnon and mainstream media like the New York Times and CNN as long ago as 2009, but it is alive and well [...] [...] the LOLCat, the Grass Mud Horse has amazing staying power.  Its song was profiled by Rebecca MacKinnon and mainstream media like the New York Times and CNN as long ago as 2009, but it is alive and well [...]

]]> By: Susan http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1756236 Susan Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:06:11 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1756236 My two cents to add would best be how and why I got to this post. My internet in China has been down for three days. Three days before the National Day celebration. I've had access to fewer and fewer websites for a month. Can't post on my own blog from here as the proxies I've used are down. All the internet service at this technology university have been down and no one can say why. At a school that teaches future computer engineers? It's not that I just couldn't go to a facebook page, but I missed my online tutoring with a girl in Afghanistan and some important emails about my job hunt. All, I suppose, to ensure that no one wrote or read something negative about the celebration. My two cents to add would best be how and why I got to this post. My internet in China has been down for three days. Three days before the National Day celebration. I’ve had access to fewer and fewer websites for a month. Can’t post on my own blog from here as the proxies I’ve used are down.

All the internet service at this technology university have been down and no one can say why. At a school that teaches future computer engineers?

It’s not that I just couldn’t go to a facebook page, but I missed my online tutoring with a girl in Afghanistan and some important emails about my job hunt. All, I suppose, to ensure that no one wrote or read something negative about the celebration.

]]> By: Blog ‘em up - en blogg om tv-spel och sdant » The Legend Returns http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1736999 Blog ‘em up - en blogg om tv-spel och sdant » The Legend Returns Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:40:22 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1736999 [...] vid Hong Kong-universitetets Journalism and Media Studies Center. Tidigare i r hll MacKinnon ett fredrag angende Kina, internet och den statsledda ntfiltrering. MacKinnon diskuterade bland annat [...]

]]> By: Great Firewall v.s. Social Media http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1673917 Great Firewall v.s. Social Media Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:00:25 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1673917 [...] we see more and more online protest including many creative cursing like the famous alpacas. The escalated censorship never faces such big challenges from the booming content in web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: serendipityoucity :: China Communication Infrastructure Blocks - Urumqi :: July :: 2009 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1641207 serendipityoucity :: China Communication Infrastructure Blocks - Urumqi :: July :: 2009 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:32:26 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1641207 [...] google his name and China and read what comes up.  HEre is one of his recent articles -  China’s complicated internet culture. Global Voices also has some stories from Urumqi. [...] [...] google his name and China and read what comes up.  HEre is one of his recent articles -  China’s complicated internet culture. Global Voices also has some stories from Urumqi. [...]

]]> By: Games for Change: Part IV at Rising Wisely http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1624150 Games for Change: Part IV at Rising Wisely Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:57:29 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1624150 [...] talks and The Economist), flow (in reference to the internet in languages other than English and Chinese internet democracy), and infrastructure (in reference to connecting the [...] [...] talks and The Economist), flow (in reference to the internet in languages other than English and Chinese internet democracy), and infrastructure (in reference to connecting the [...]

]]> By: On Tiananmen’s 20th anniversary: How China is becoming a Giant Singapore at theory.isthereason http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1597854 On Tiananmen’s 20th anniversary: How China is becoming a Giant Singapore at theory.isthereason Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:46:34 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1597854 [...] Zuckerman and Rebecca McKinnon elaborate from this point about China’s complicated culture. There appears to be an equilibrium, since for every push the government makes, an equal push is [...] [...] Zuckerman and Rebecca McKinnon elaborate from this point about China’s complicated culture. There appears to be an equilibrium, since for every push the government makes, an equal push is [...]

]]> By: Michael Nielsen » Biweekly links for 04/24/2009 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1529624 Michael Nielsen » Biweekly links for 04/24/2009 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:53:19 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1529624 [...] …My heart’s in Accra » China’s complicated internet culture [...] [...] …My heart’s in Accra » China’s complicated internet culture [...]

]]> By: Guest Post by Isaac Mao: Great Firewall v.s. Social Media - Luke Gedeon http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1463113 Guest Post by Isaac Mao: Great Firewall v.s. Social Media - Luke Gedeon Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:49:05 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1463113 [...] we see more and more online protest including many creative cursing like the famous “alpacas”. The escalated censorship never faces such big challenges from the booming content in web 2.0 [...] [...] we see more and more online protest including many creative cursing like the famous “alpacas”. The escalated censorship never faces such big challenges from the booming content in web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: HJG http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/03/03/chinas-complicated-internet-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-1458692 HJG Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:37:12 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-1458692 The internet is as much a place of dissent as it is for political rallying behind the CCP. The CCP's attempt at censorship is half-hearted at best, because they know much of what's going on the net is actually good for them. Nearly everything can be said on the internet, sometimes to the annoyance of common people more than the government: there are forums/sites famous for their radical and often not so helpful anti-CCP stances, and many Chinese people moan about why the government still hasn't shut them down yet. And it's funny how you mentioned the fifty-centers but not the WTs---those who are accused of receiving payments from foreign governments/institutions to post certain opinions, etc. Accusations of WT are just as valid as accusations of fifty-centers. It's a complicated world, and every word has a plethora of meanings. For example, if you think "river crab" always mean discontent about censorship, you haven't been hanging around long enough. The internet is as much a place of dissent as it is for political rallying behind the CCP. The CCP’s attempt at censorship is half-hearted at best, because they know much of what’s going on the net is actually good for them. Nearly everything can be said on the internet, sometimes to the annoyance of common people more than the government: there are forums/sites famous for their radical and often not so helpful anti-CCP stances, and many Chinese people moan about why the government still hasn’t shut them down yet. And it’s funny how you mentioned the fifty-centers but not the WTs—those who are accused of receiving payments from foreign governments/institutions to post certain opinions, etc. Accusations of WT are just as valid as accusations of fifty-centers. It’s a complicated world, and every word has a plethora of meanings. For example, if you think “river crab” always mean discontent about censorship, you haven’t been hanging around long enough.

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