Comments on: Notes and reflections from the Open Translation Tools Summit 2009 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/ EthanZ's musings on Africa, media and international development Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:45:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: …My heart’s in Accra » Alex MacGillivray explains the Google Books settlement http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1664482 …My heart’s in Accra » Alex MacGillivray explains the Google Books settlement Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:36:53 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1664482 [...] asked the question because I was concerned at the recent Open Translation Tools summit that innovators might stop working on translation projects believing that Google now has an [...] [...] asked the question because I was concerned at the recent Open Translation Tools summit that innovators might stop working on translation projects believing that Google now has an [...]

]]> By: Global Voices in Italiano » Al via il Translation Exchange Project di Global Voices http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1642035 Global Voices in Italiano » Al via il Translation Exchange Project di Global Voices Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:25:11 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1642035 [...] [in], discutendo di traduzioni aperta con tecnici, traduttori e autori. Per i dettagli si veda l’articolo riassuntivo [in] di Ethan Zuckermann, mentre sul wiki di OTT09 ci sono varie annotazioni e il manuale degli [...] [...] [in], discutendo di traduzioni aperta con tecnici, traduttori e autori. Per i dettagli si veda l’articolo riassuntivo [in] di Ethan Zuckermann, mentre sul wiki di OTT09 ci sono varie annotazioni e il manuale degli [...]

]]> By: MysticSaint http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1637839 MysticSaint Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:47:33 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1637839 Hi Ethan, This is exciting development on the horizon. What i have been doing in the last few months or so is translating not-so-commonly translated (yet popular) songs and poems from Indian Sub Continent. I have tried collaborating with various other readers of my blog and it has been a success. In the process i have developed a good body of translation of songs / poems from few major Indian subcontinent language such as Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi and Bengali. I think organic translation collaboration is also an important component for this translation effort. The reason is precisely because of few elements which if translated using algorithm wont just make sense. And things like literature (particularly poetry, lyrics) will fall under that category. There is a possibility to create platform for organic translation and translators as sub-branch of this whole endeavor. I would be very much open to participate in brain storming (and heart storming) in the process. Pls feel free to ping me at mysticsaint@gmail.com Hi Ethan,
This is exciting development on the horizon.

What i have been doing in the last few months or so is translating not-so-commonly translated (yet popular) songs and poems from Indian Sub Continent. I have tried collaborating with various other readers of my blog and it has been a success. In the process i have developed a good body of translation of songs / poems from few major Indian subcontinent language such as Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi and Bengali.

I think organic translation collaboration is also an important component for this translation effort. The reason is precisely because of few elements which if translated using algorithm wont just make sense. And things like literature (particularly poetry, lyrics) will fall under that category. There is a possibility to create platform for organic translation and translators as sub-branch of this whole endeavor.

I would be very much open to participate in brain storming (and heart storming) in the process. Pls feel free to ping me at mysticsaint@gmail.com

]]> By: El Oso Blogs the OTT Conference « Global Voices Translation Exchange http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1636895 El Oso Blogs the OTT Conference « Global Voices Translation Exchange Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:05:13 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1636895 [...] more, notes from all the sessions are available on the Open Translation Tools wiki, Ethan has a nice summary blog post, photos are on Flickr, and updates are on Twitter, and more related blog posts are available here. [...] [...] more, notes from all the sessions are available on the Open Translation Tools wiki, Ethan has a nice summary blog post, photos are on Flickr, and updates are on Twitter, and more related blog posts are available here. [...]

]]> By: El Oso » Archive » Open Translation Tools 2009 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1636707 El Oso » Archive » Open Translation Tools 2009 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:09:10 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1636707 [...] more, notes from all the sessions are available on the Open Translation Tools wiki, Ethan has a nice summary blog post, photos are on Flickr, and updates are on Twitter, and more related blog posts are available here. [...] [...] more, notes from all the sessions are available on the Open Translation Tools wiki, Ethan has a nice summary blog post, photos are on Flickr, and updates are on Twitter, and more related blog posts are available here. [...]

]]> By: …My heart’s in Accra » The Open Translation Manual http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1631690 …My heart’s in Accra » The Open Translation Manual Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1631690 [...] a post last week about the Open Translation Tools summit in Amsterdam, I mentioned a “book sprint” that was working to put together a book on Open [...] [...] a post last week about the Open Translation Tools summit in Amsterdam, I mentioned a “book sprint” that was working to put together a book on Open [...]

]]> By: Ethan http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1631473 Ethan Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:20:11 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1631473 Thanks for weighing in, Kevin. That's an interesting update on Technorati's numbers from two years ago, where they saw Japanese roughly equaling English. The really interesting question for me is the Chinese-language blogosphere. My guess is it's very hard for you guys to index as blog platforms there don't generally use pingservers. Would be very interesting to hear if you've got size estimates, though... Thanks for weighing in, Kevin. That’s an interesting update on Technorati’s numbers from two years ago, where they saw Japanese roughly equaling English.

The really interesting question for me is the Chinese-language blogosphere. My guess is it’s very hard for you guys to index as blog platforms there don’t generally use pingservers. Would be very interesting to hear if you’ve got size estimates, though…

]]> By: Kevin Burton http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1631042 Kevin Burton Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:12:13 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1631042 I can tell you the size of the Japanese blogosphere..... About 750k posts per hour..... 3x the size of the English blogosphere. We haven't started to index it yet as our customers haven't been demanding it .... but it's on the horizon. We have access to the content.... we just haven't turned it on as the hardware costs obviously aren't cheap. Kevin I can tell you the size of the Japanese blogosphere…..

About 750k posts per hour….. 3x the size of the English blogosphere.

We haven’t started to index it yet as our customers haven’t been demanding it …. but it’s on the horizon.

We have access to the content…. we just haven’t turned it on as the hardware costs obviously aren’t cheap.

Kevin

]]> By: pfctdayelise http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1630604 pfctdayelise Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:48:59 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1630604 Thanks for writing up your notes; sounds really interesting and as with the last one I can only say I wish I was there! Your comments on the difference between "volunteers who are translating" vs "translators who are volunteering their time" were interesting. It's certainly interesting to see how the huge numbers of volunteer translators on the web will take to TM eg in Google's Translator Toolkit. (I work for ToggleText, on proprietary MT, but I'm also very interested in this topic from the open source/Wikipedia perspective.) Thanks for writing up your notes; sounds really interesting and as with the last one I can only say I wish I was there!

Your comments on the difference between “volunteers who are translating” vs “translators who are volunteering their time” were interesting. It’s certainly interesting to see how the huge numbers of volunteer translators on the web will take to TM eg in Google’s Translator Toolkit.

(I work for ToggleText, on proprietary MT, but I’m also very interested in this topic from the open source/Wikipedia perspective.)

]]> By: George http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/06/26/notes-and-reflections-from-the-open-translation-tools-summit-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1630054 George Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:38:23 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=3017#comment-1630054 Thanks for this excellent post Ethan - this is such a good summary of the key questions and debates that were discussed in Amsterdam. A great resource for us all. I've also added a post to the Meedan blog today about the question of demand for translation. We're translating the post into Arabic too. Please do add your views: http://blog.meedan.net/2009/06/29/translation-demand/ Thanks, George Weyman Thanks for this excellent post Ethan – this is such a good summary of the key questions and debates that were discussed in Amsterdam. A great resource for us all.

I’ve also added a post to the Meedan blog today about the question of demand for translation. We’re translating the post into Arabic too. Please do add your views:

http://blog.meedan.net/2009/06/29/translation-demand/

Thanks,
George Weyman

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