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		<title>By: La peine de mort requise contre un un blogueur en Iran &#124; ReadWriteWeb France</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-2179885</link>
		<dc:creator>La peine de mort requise contre un un blogueur en Iran &#124; ReadWriteWeb France</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lire plus d’informations sur la situa­tion de Hoder, je vous sug­gère de com­men­cer par le billet de Ethan Zuckerman, le fon­da­teur de Global Voices. AKPC_IDS += &quot;10298,&quot;;SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;La peine de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lire plus d’informations sur la situa­tion de Hoder, je vous sug­gère de com­men­cer par le billet de Ethan Zuckerman, le fon­da­teur de Global Voices. AKPC_IDS += &quot;10298,&quot;;SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;La peine de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 死刑在伊朗寻求加拿大的Blogger &#171; My China &#8211; 我的中国</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-2177833</link>
		<dc:creator>死刑在伊朗寻求加拿大的Blogger &#171; My China &#8211; 我的中国</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 自从他被逮捕，他的网站 ，其中载有英文和波斯语博客都已经关闭，他的网站上，供他返回伊朗已经采取了与发垃圾邮件处理。超过范围内侯德的情况下，你可能更糟做伊森朱克曼的职位由去年。有一个免费侯德的网站，但尚未发布的4月至至今。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 自从他被逮捕，他的网站 ，其中载有英文和波斯语博客都已经关闭，他的网站上，供他返回伊朗已经采取了与发垃圾邮件处理。超过范围内侯德的情况下，你可能更糟做伊森朱克曼的职位由去年。有一个免费侯德的网站，但尚未发布的4月至至今。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Death Penalty Sought for Canadian Blogger in Iran &#124; Tech News Ninja</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-2177596</link>
		<dc:creator>Death Penalty Sought for Canadian Blogger in Iran &#124; Tech News Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over with hair treatment spam. For more context on Hoder&#8217;s situation you could do worse than Ethan Zuckerman&#8217;s post from last year. There is a Free Hoder site, but it has not been posted to since [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] over with hair treatment spam. For more context on Hoder&#8217;s situation you could do worse than Ethan Zuckerman&#8217;s post from last year. There is a Free Hoder site, but it has not been posted to since [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Death Penalty Sought for Canadian Blogger in Iran</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-2177595</link>
		<dc:creator>Death Penalty Sought for Canadian Blogger in Iran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taken over with hair treatment spam. For more context on Hoder&#039;s situation you could do worse than Ethan Zuckerman&#039;s post from last year. There is a Free Hoder site, but it has not been posted to since [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] taken over with hair treatment spam. For more context on Hoder&#039;s situation you could do worse than Ethan Zuckerman&#039;s post from last year. There is a Free Hoder site, but it has not been posted to since [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Miriam Meckel &#8211; Iran, Robert Mackey and information brokers</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-2044170</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Miriam Meckel &#8211; Iran, Robert Mackey and information brokers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that imprisoned blogger and activist Hossein Derakshan was cooperating with Iranian authorities. I wrote an angry post on my blog, accusing Mackey of violating journalistic ethics in amplifying an unverified (and untrue) rumor. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that imprisoned blogger and activist Hossein Derakshan was cooperating with Iranian authorities. I wrote an angry post on my blog, accusing Mackey of violating journalistic ethics in amplifying an unverified (and untrue) rumor. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Background on Dickey&#8217;s &#8220;The Blogfather and the Spy&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1827300</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Background on Dickey&#8217;s &#8220;The Blogfather and the Spy&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] custody in Iran for over a year &#8211; I&#8217;ve written about his detention on the blog several times. In August, in the wake of arrests after the Green Revolution, a series of show trials went on in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] custody in Iran for over a year &#8211; I&#8217;ve written about his detention on the blog several times. In August, in the wake of arrests after the Green Revolution, a series of show trials went on in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Hossein Derakhshan, now detained for over a year</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1790587</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Hossein Derakhshan, now detained for over a year</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written about Hossein&#8217;s detention previously &#8211; it&#8217;s a complicated topic, as Hoder&#8217;s a complicated guy, and understanding his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan,

Not sure why my long post didn&#039;t take here, but I&#039;ve put it on my blog just in case it&#039;s too long for your system:
http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/07/the-amplifiers.html

My main concern about your take on all this is the facility with which you accept that the Iranian blogger was right to invoke the notion that American hostility would be increased if he were arrested, and then outsiders could point to further repression as a justification for aggression.

But that isn&#039;t valid, as there is absolutely no indication that the Obama administration was going to invoke the arrests of Iranians as a pretext to take military or other aggressive action, and there&#039;s no evidence that this or that arrest would sway them. It seems to me you really have to ask yourself what&#039;s up with that version of the story, because it seems to me to be the classic twist that propagandists used to paralyze concerned liberals. I&#039;ve seen it time again all over the world from autocratic governments &quot;Don&#039;t talk to those dissidents, you&#039;ll get them in trouble&quot; or people who occupy a complex space where they may cooperate with the regime at some level or at least moderate their dissent based on various considerations will say, &quot;Don&#039;t make too much of my harassment because it will just feed the conservatives&quot;.

Not an argument I find at all acceptable for a journalist, a blogger, or a human rights activist to allow to govern their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan,</p>
<p>Not sure why my long post didn&#8217;t take here, but I&#8217;ve put it on my blog just in case it&#8217;s too long for your system:<br />
<a href="http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/07/the-amplifiers.html" rel="nofollow">http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/07/the-amplifiers.html</a></p>
<p>My main concern about your take on all this is the facility with which you accept that the Iranian blogger was right to invoke the notion that American hostility would be increased if he were arrested, and then outsiders could point to further repression as a justification for aggression.</p>
<p>But that isn&#8217;t valid, as there is absolutely no indication that the Obama administration was going to invoke the arrests of Iranians as a pretext to take military or other aggressive action, and there&#8217;s no evidence that this or that arrest would sway them. It seems to me you really have to ask yourself what&#8217;s up with that version of the story, because it seems to me to be the classic twist that propagandists used to paralyze concerned liberals. I&#8217;ve seen it time again all over the world from autocratic governments &#8220;Don&#8217;t talk to those dissidents, you&#8217;ll get them in trouble&#8221; or people who occupy a complex space where they may cooperate with the regime at some level or at least moderate their dissent based on various considerations will say, &#8220;Don&#8217;t make too much of my harassment because it will just feed the conservatives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not an argument I find at all acceptable for a journalist, a blogger, or a human rights activist to allow to govern their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1680268</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan
fabricating plot stories is not something new in IRI,however I think this is an interesting case because it shows that the Ahmadinejad camp was somehow organizing an election coup since a few month ago.I do not know Hossein Derakhshan but from what I have read about and from him, he looks like a very controversial person hence the right type to use as a witness.Again, whether he has been forced to or has become voluntarily part of this whole thing remains to be seen.
The core of the story as I said is They knew they were going to lose the elections and started planning many months ago. This goes beyond vote rigging and that&#039;s why it is important to write about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan<br />
fabricating plot stories is not something new in IRI,however I think this is an interesting case because it shows that the Ahmadinejad camp was somehow organizing an election coup since a few month ago.I do not know Hossein Derakhshan but from what I have read about and from him, he looks like a very controversial person hence the right type to use as a witness.Again, whether he has been forced to or has become voluntarily part of this whole thing remains to be seen.<br />
The core of the story as I said is They knew they were going to lose the elections and started planning many months ago. This goes beyond vote rigging and that&#8217;s why it is important to write about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/07/23/when-the-times-reports-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1680217</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sara. Global Voices is following the case closely - we&#039;re trying to get translations of the news releases and court proceedings. Hossein has a long relationship with Global Voices and with me personally. If this is the product of a forced confession - my interpretation of the situation - it&#039;s not surprising that I or Global Voices would be mentioned. These confessions attempt to construct complex plots, involving the unlikeliest of actors, to &quot;demonstrate&quot; that we&#039;re not just dealing with blogging or citizen media, but with the efforts of outside instigators. While it&#039;s more than a little disconcerting to see my name in these proceedings, within that context, it&#039;s not all that surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sara. Global Voices is following the case closely &#8211; we&#8217;re trying to get translations of the news releases and court proceedings. Hossein has a long relationship with Global Voices and with me personally. If this is the product of a forced confession &#8211; my interpretation of the situation &#8211; it&#8217;s not surprising that I or Global Voices would be mentioned. These confessions attempt to construct complex plots, involving the unlikeliest of actors, to &#8220;demonstrate&#8221; that we&#8217;re not just dealing with blogging or citizen media, but with the efforts of outside instigators. While it&#8217;s more than a little disconcerting to see my name in these proceedings, within that context, it&#8217;s not all that surprising.</p>
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