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		<title>By: David Weinberger: How information became the &#8220;dominant metaphor&#8221; of contemporary intellectual life » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinberger: How information became the &#8220;dominant metaphor&#8221; of contemporary intellectual life » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 14:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you don&#8217;t have time to watch, Ethan Zuckerman liveblogged the talk, and David posted an early draft outline of it. AKPC_IDS += &quot;16848,&quot;;  SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Berkman Center Events &#38; Webcasts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; …My heart’s in Accra » David Weinberger: what information was</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berkman Center Events &#38; Webcasts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; …My heart’s in Accra » David Weinberger: what information was</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Duajuta Inovasi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ethanz blogs, well, me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duajuta Inovasi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ethanz blogs, well, me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been honored with one of Ethan Zuckerman&#8217;s incredible liveblog postings. I gave a 45 min talk at the Berkman Center yesterday. I spoke quickly, waved my hands a lot, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been honored with one of Ethan Zuckerman&#8217;s incredible liveblog postings. I gave a 45 min talk at the Berkman Center yesterday. I spoke quickly, waved my hands a lot, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mirek Sopek</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/11/10/david-weinberger-what-information-was/comment-page-1/#comment-1805396</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirek Sopek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched David&#039;s important and deep talk. And I&#039;m happy that such fundamental topic, the essence of information is now starting being discussed in the new context. This context is related to &quot;link age&quot;.
As Ethan wrote: &quot;starting to articulate a vision of a linked age, rather than an information age&quot;.

Maybe, from the perspective of &quot;linked age&quot;, &quot;linked data&quot; age, &quot;semantic web&quot; (aka links everywhere)
we will see clearer the information itself.

But what I most liked in David&#039;s talk, were the remarks (forgive me if my rendition is not exact,
En is my SL):

&quot;I&#039;m not thinking about a link in terms of HTML underneath it.(...) I&#039;m thinking about the link as about a bit of language.

And much of what I said about links is just a languages is true about language itself, it is because links are usually linguistic and almost always semantic even if not always linguistic.
That they have the properties that I pointed to.
And in some ways the fundamental debate between the ages, I think, is actually the one between the 
information and language.&quot;

I think David touched the essence of the most important philosohpical debate that is going on today.
And I&#039;m happy, web and information technology have something to tell us about the essence ... of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched David&#8217;s important and deep talk. And I&#8217;m happy that such fundamental topic, the essence of information is now starting being discussed in the new context. This context is related to &#8220;link age&#8221;.<br />
As Ethan wrote: &#8220;starting to articulate a vision of a linked age, rather than an information age&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe, from the perspective of &#8220;linked age&#8221;, &#8220;linked data&#8221; age, &#8220;semantic web&#8221; (aka links everywhere)<br />
we will see clearer the information itself.</p>
<p>But what I most liked in David&#8217;s talk, were the remarks (forgive me if my rendition is not exact,<br />
En is my SL):</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not thinking about a link in terms of HTML underneath it.(&#8230;) I&#8217;m thinking about the link as about a bit of language.</p>
<p>And much of what I said about links is just a languages is true about language itself, it is because links are usually linguistic and almost always semantic even if not always linguistic.<br />
That they have the properties that I pointed to.<br />
And in some ways the fundamental debate between the ages, I think, is actually the one between the<br />
information and language.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think David touched the essence of the most important philosohpical debate that is going on today.<br />
And I&#8217;m happy, web and information technology have something to tell us about the essence &#8230; of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Luisetta Mudie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luisetta Mudie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[trackback] Here are a few thoughts in response to a recent post by Ethan Zuckerman, hat tip to Rebecca MacKinnon, on a recent talk by David Weinberger. I am responding by baldly stating my experience, conclusions and beliefs about image, word and reality. http://thespiritmercurious.blo.....undus.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[trackback] Here are a few thoughts in response to a recent post by Ethan Zuckerman, hat tip to Rebecca MacKinnon, on a recent talk by David Weinberger. I am responding by baldly stating my experience, conclusions and beliefs about image, word and reality. <a href="http://thespiritmercurious.blo.....undus.html" rel="nofollow">http://thespiritmercurious.blo&#8230;..undus.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fran Sansalone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Sansalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, David&#039;s words are insightful, witty, and paradigm-shifting. Thanks so much for once more repositioning what previously appeared to be immovable, for shedding light, offering new perspective, stretching my brain. And Ethan&#039;s reporting is fabulous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, David&#8217;s words are insightful, witty, and paradigm-shifting. Thanks so much for once more repositioning what previously appeared to be immovable, for shedding light, offering new perspective, stretching my brain. And Ethan&#8217;s reporting is fabulous.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-11-11 &#171; riverrun meaghn beta</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-11-11 &#171; riverrun meaghn beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] …My heart’s in Accra » David Weinberger: what information was Ethan Zuckerman writes &quot;There are many things I admire about my friend and colleague, David Weinberger: his intellectual curiosity, his generosity with his time and guidance, his sense of humor… One facet of David I most admire is his willingness to think in public. Most people who speak for a living (as David does, and as I aspire to do) use well-worn and carefully roadtested material. David is brave enough to put new ideas in front of audiences and work through new ideas, live and in public. And we’re lucky enough at the Berkman Center lunch today to hear his new talk, “What Information Was: Bits, Links and the Iron Rule of Irony”, an exploration of issues that David is starting to think about and wrestle with.&quot; (tags: information media history) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elin Whitney-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/11/10/david-weinberger-what-information-was/comment-page-1/#comment-1799742</link>
		<dc:creator>Elin Whitney-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will offer a quibble. Bateson said, &quot;information is the difference that makes a difference&quot; 

He then goes on to talk about how one can get angry about a letter that is not received. The lack of the letter is information for the person who hopes to receive it.

Shannon, and others, make the point that the receiver controls the message. If the receiver doesn&#039;t receive the message then there is no information regardless of what has been sent.

This in turn suggests that one person&#039;s noise is another person&#039;s information.

It is a difficult problem since every receiver defines what information is to him, her or it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will offer a quibble. Bateson said, &#8220;information is the difference that makes a difference&#8221; </p>
<p>He then goes on to talk about how one can get angry about a letter that is not received. The lack of the letter is information for the person who hopes to receive it.</p>
<p>Shannon, and others, make the point that the receiver controls the message. If the receiver doesn&#8217;t receive the message then there is no information regardless of what has been sent.</p>
<p>This in turn suggests that one person&#8217;s noise is another person&#8217;s information.</p>
<p>It is a difficult problem since every receiver defines what information is to him, her or it.</p>
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		<title>By: david weinberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>david weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, johne. Ethanz didn&#039;t mention that I illustrated this slide with his picture because I&#039;ve learned so much from him about the importance of bridging and embracing diffference. 

Ethan&#039; thank you SO much for this act of real time journalism and essay writing. And for your friendship.

Love,

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, johne. Ethanz didn&#8217;t mention that I illustrated this slide with his picture because I&#8217;ve learned so much from him about the importance of bridging and embracing diffference. </p>
<p>Ethan&#8217; thank you SO much for this act of real time journalism and essay writing. And for your friendship.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinberger: what information was &#124; Rachna</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinberger: what information was &#124; Rachna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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