Comments on: Linguistic isolation http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/ Ethan Zuckerman’s online home, since 2003 Thu, 31 May 2018 07:56:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: [Review] Rewire http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2775101 Thu, 16 May 2013 18:02:19 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2775101 […] and radio news broadcasts. The same holds true for consumers of online news. According to data from Google’s Ad Planner, Ethan informs us, 94% of page views by US internet users are for domestic websites. (99.9% of page […]

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By: Timo http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661229 Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:33:34 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661229 Fascinating and inspires a whole range of other related ideas, Ethan. Thanks!

Is there some way of quantifying the cultures not bound by national borders? Might geographical places like Quebec or Catalonia, and also other language/culture groups, such as Hausa, Cherokee or Yiddish speakers, be considered as some sort of significant entity in this cosmopolitanism?

Arabic, English, Spanish and French, as well as others, have a much bigger influence than the number of speakers, never mind as a first-language speakers, that exist, as you mention. Perhaps it is worth looking at how many *readers* of a certain language exist? Or does television and radio make those groups less significant? And – oh yeah – the internet/multimedia… do people consume news pictures, moving or otherwise, without hearing or understanding the words?

All nuances, of course, and probably tiny fractions of the broader array of numbers. I look forward to the book.

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By: Daniel Maree http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661222 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:26:03 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661222 What about looking at user data from an inherently cosmopolitan online community like couchsurfer.com. I imagine this would yield some critical insights about modern cosmopolitanism, especially among young people.

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By: Ethan http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661212 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:34:14 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661212 I’ve asked. So far the answer has been “no”. :-)

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By: [2b2k] Ethanz on linguistic isolation « oracle fusion identity http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661208 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:13:04 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661208 […] Ethan Zuckerman asks a simple question — is there a correlation between how many outside news sources the people in a country consult and whether those people’s language is spoken mainly in their own country? — and leads us through the quantifiable maze looking for an answer. […]

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By: Scott Hale http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661198 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:59:46 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661198 Hi Ethan, I’ve actually been meaning to email regarding something related. I’m still working on studying the flows of information between languages online and the effects of design over at the OII; I haven’t looked at the country level, which I think complicates matters further, but certainly from a language-wide level the amount of content in a given language is important to the crossing of language boundaries. This is shown in my work (the paper about the Haitian earthquake we spoke about in July 2010 was finally published in the JCMC last month! — http://www.scotthale.net/blog/?p=160). The importance of the amount of content has also been shown by the Google Data team looking at pages with a high page rank (http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2011/07/languages-of-world-wide-web.html), and by Wei and Kolko (2005), who found using a survey methodology that the lack of content in Uzbeck encouraged Internet use in English and Russian in Uzbekistan even when users had low confidence in their foreign-language skills. So, from the newspaper perspective, it would be important to control for the number of news sites available in each language. This might just be counting up the number of prevalent sites as found in Google Ad Planner for each country/language, or the World Bank provides data on the number of daily newspapers (per 1,000 people) for all countries (a map of that data is at http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/vis/?id=4e3c0222 and the original data is at http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.PRT.NEWS.P3 ).

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By: Oso http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2012/02/21/linguistic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-2661191 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:47:53 +0000 http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=4341#comment-2661191 I wonder if you’re able to get your hands on data from Google Translate about usage and most popular languages per country.

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